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Fans & Ventilation

Fans and ventilation includes extractor fans, hand dryers and hair driers.

Q. I have recently bought a Manrose gold extractor fan. It is mounted in bathroom ceiling. Since it has been installed it drips after showers and a damp patch has appeared on the ceiling next to it. My builder has changed the flexible flue running it out to the eaves of my bungalow through the loft , and has also wrapped it in insulation, but this hasn't helped. Would a condensation trap be the answer?

Please contact MANROSE on 01753 691399

Q. My question regarding the fan not running on is related to a Manrose fan Thanks Clive Reeder

Good Morning Clive,

How may i help you with regards to a Manrose fan?

Kind Regards

Emma Stevenson

Q. I have a fan in a bathroom linked to the light switch which originally had a delay when the light was turned off. It now stops when the light is switched off. I cleaned some dust off it and it now remains on for a few seconds only. Any thoughts? Many thanks

Good Morning Clive

 

if you  could email support@support.alertelectrical.com and confirm which make of fan you have then we can advise further for you

 

Many thanks

 

Nathan Swann

Q. My delivery w20120831N25 should have been delivered on mon 3rd Sept. Its now the 4th. where is it and when will i recieve it?

Good Morning Jim

 

If you could email your request to support@support.alertelectrical.com we can advise further on this for you

 

Many Thanks

 

Nathan Swann

Q. My delivery address is shown as post code only is that ok or do you require my full address

Good Afternoon Brian,

We require full address & Postcode please.

 

Thank you

 

Emma Stevenson

Q. Hi, i own a shop and its getting a bit warm in there at the moment would A Manrose 300mm automatic flush mounting extractor fan help in anyway if not how could u advise me to solve this problem

Good Afternoon Willam,

Thank you for submitting a ticket to Alert Electrical Support, if you would like to contact Manrose technical on the following telephone number 01753 691399 they will be able to advise you.

Thank you for your enquiry.

Q. I need a fan that is suitable for extyracting from 3 separate bathrooms into one duct with a single roof outlet, pls recommend a choice of products

Good Afternoon Kate

Thank you for contacting Alert Electrical support.  If you contac tMANROSE MANUFACTURING LTD on the following number 01753 691399 they will be able to advise you.

Thank you for your enquiry.

Q. Does the size of the grill mean the pipe size or the outside diamention of the cover?

The size of the grill means the pipe size

Q. Can I buy a manrose fan in Dublin ?? Or can I order it from you and get it delivered to Dublin and what is the cost of the product in Euro and the delivery cost ?? Thanks in advance.

Good Morning Philip

 

if you could contact Support@support.alertelectrical.com we can advise further on this for you

 

Many Thanks

 

Nathan Swann

Q. Can the Icon15 230v fan be used in zone 2, I cant justify the cost of the 12v fan. Thanks

Good Morning Mr Davis

 

unfortunately this is not something we would be able to advise on

 

 if you would like to contact Manrose technical on the following telephone number 01753 691399 they will be able to advise you

 

Many Thanks

 

Nathan Swann

Q. We have been advised that our order W20120423N47 has been despatched. I do not have an account - how do I track it? Are you able to give me some idea of day/time of the delivery please. Thank you.

Good Morning Edward

 

if you could contact us at support@support.alertelectrical.com we can provide tracking details on this for you

 

Many Thanks

 

Nathan Swann

Q. I have a Manrose ceiling fan in the bathroom but have noticed recently that it doesn't seem to extract as much steam from the bath/shower - do they need cleaning?

Good Afternoon,

 

Thank you for submitting a FAQ  to Alert Electrical Support, if you would like to contact Manrose technical on the following telephone number 01753 691399 they will be able to advise you.

Thank you for your enquiry.

Q. Morning. We have a Manrose 4 inch bathroom fan installed, 4 years old. It does not run. could you advise setting instructions, please?

Good Morning

 

if you would like to contact Manrose technical on the following telephone number 01753 691399 they will be able to advise you

 

Many Thanks

 

Nathan Swann

Q. Hi, I want to order 4 100mm backdraft shutters but the delivery charge is very expensive at £16.80 can this be reduced for a multiple buy?

Good Morning Breid

 

If you would like to contact support@support.alertelectrical.com we can advise further on this for you

Q. Is the MANROSE XF100T (Timer Model) in stock?

Good Morning John

 

We currently have 78 in stock

 

Order the XF100T before 2pm today for delivery Friday

 

Many Thanks

 

Nathan Swann

Q. Icon 15 extractor fan shown on first page, General, Electric Fan Range as 4" and 6". When I go to the order page there is nothing showing the size. Are they all 4"?

Good Afternoon

 

The Icon 15  are all 4" fans.

 

Thank you for your enquiry.

 

Kind regards

 

Stacey Harrow

Customer service Advisor

Q. Can you tell me if the MANHR150VA transformer/speed controller is supplied with the MANHR200v whole house MVHR unit? If not, do you stock it and how much is it? Thanks.

Thank you for contacting to Alert Electrical Support, if you would like to contact Manrose technical on the following telephone number 01753 691399 they will be able to advise you.

Thank you for your enquiry.

 

Kind regards

 

Stacey Harrow

Customer service advisor

Q. Has order number W20110816n18 been dispatched please.

I can confirm that you order was dispatched Friday for delivery to you Monday.

 

Thank you for your enquiry.

 

 

Q. Do you sell ceiling fan parts

We sell a comprehensive range of decorative ceiling fans for purchase online including the full range from quality British manufacturer Fantasia.  This includes complete decorative ceiling fans, drop rods and ceiling mounting kits

Q. I am trying to install a Manrose bathroom extractor fan with timer on to either the light fitting or the light switch. There are only two wires on the light switch, one black and one red, I need an earth wire to connect to the fan. Please advice me what to do? Many thanks

If you contact Manrose technical on the following number they will be able to advise you on how this should be done. Manrose 01753 691399

Q. Do you have anything suitable for a caravan? If so, how much?

Hi Roger 

Nothing specifically for a caravan but we do have some fans that run on 12vdc: http://www.alertelectrical.com/Fans-And-Ventilation/Extractor-Fans/12-Volt-Bathroom-Shower-Fans/100mm-12v-Bathroom-Wall-Fan--XF100LV.asp

Thank you for your enquiry.

 

Q. Hi, I am interested in buying the Frrido Portable Air Conditioning unit and would like to understand what discount can be offered as I have a requirement for 11 units. Please can you call me on the number below as soon as possible in order to progress with this enquiry, and hopefully the purchase of these units. Kind Regards, Michael Duncan Tel: +44 (0) 7867 831472

if you could contact Nathan on support@support.alertelectrical.com he can advise on any extra discount that may be available for this order

Q. I habe to check a ceiling mounted icon extractor fan for possible fault but am unable to take the cover off without using force. Can you explain how I can do this. I have removed one screw holding the front to tha main body but the fan cover won't budge.

Thank you for submitting a ticket to Alert Electrical Support, if you would like to contact Airflow technical on the following telephone number 01494 525252 they will be able to advise you.

Thank you for your enquiry.

 

Kind regards

 

Stacey Harrow

Customer service advisor

Q. I wish to order a ICON15 SELV fan. I cannot find on your website how to order the low voltage timer unit with it. I do not want pull cord or any other options as I intend to link it to the light pull switch. I also wish to rder some lights so could you please send me the info to answer the above and I will place the order online.

Thank you for your enquiry , the modules associated with the icon 15SELV are the only options available you could order the pull cord/ timer and not use the pull cord. This will work the same.

If you forward me a list of the lights you require we will forward you a quotation .

Here is the link to the module

 

http://www.alertelectrical.com/Fans-And-Ventilation/Airflow-Icon-Extractor-fans/Airflow-Icon-LV-Pull-Cord-Timer-Module-ICONPCTS.asp

Q. ceiling fan(white)with remote i am enquiring if i order this today can i get it for tomorrow morning?x

If the item is in stock this will be despatched for next day delivery.

 

Q. I have a Manrose fan type EMF4T with a duct diam of 4ins in my ensuite wich has failed. I wish to replace it . Can you advise me of asuitable replacement.

Good Morning

 

the fan that would be a replacement for the fan you have would be the XF100T

Q. The problems caused by poor ventilation

Stale Airsaucepan
Stale air can be caused by cooking smells, smoking, odours remaining in the bathroom, a general lack of ventilation around the house as well as a damp atmosphere.

ashtray All these problems cause an avoidable level of discomfort as well as the risk of respiratory illness and general poor health.

 

 

Condensation
window
 Problems occur when steam from the kitchen or bathroom finds relatively cooler surfaces around the house and condenses. Attempts to conserve heat by sealing windows - and therefore reducing natural ventilation - makes this problem even worse.
 
wallpaper Condensation can cause considerable problems, from peeling wallpaper and mould growth to severe structural damage such as wood rot and damp

Q. Solving the problems

Building Regulations
 
The Building Regulations Document F1 (1995 Edition) outlines the importance of ventilation and stipulates that mechanical ventilation must be installed in kitchens, bath/shower rooms and toilets.
 
All Manrose fans comply with or exceed current Building Regulations and are capable of extracting not less than 60 litres per second from kitchens and not less than 15 litres per second from bath/shower rooms. This means that humidity is removed at source before it can reach the cooler part of the dwelling and cause damage.
 
Specific requirements of The Building Regulations Document F1 (1995 Edition) on ventilation are as follows:

  • Bathrooms:
    The Regulations require a fan capable of minimum extract capacity of 15 litres per second 54m³hr (32CFM).
  • Toilets:
    The Regulations require a fan capable of at least 3 air changes per hour and with a 15 minute over-run timer. N.B. 15 minute over-run is not a requirement in Scotland.
     
  • Kitchens:
    The Regulations require a fan capable of extracting 60 litres per second 216m³hr (127CFM).
     
  • Utility Rooms:
    The Regulations require a fan capable of extracting 30 litres per second 108m³hr (63CFM).

Q. Sitting the fan correctly

A fan should always be sited in the furthest window or wall from the main source of air replacement to avoid short-circuiting the airflow.
 
It should be located as high as possible in the window or wall nearest to smells or steam, but not directly above eye-level grills or cooker hoods.
 
If the room contains a fuel burning device (such as a gas boiler) with a non-balanced flue, it is essential that there is enough replacement air to prevent fumes being drawn down the flue when the fan is extracting to its utmost capacity.
 
kitchen IEE Regulations (U.K.) require that a conventional mains voltage fan in a bathroom or shower must be located where it cannot be touched by a person using the bath or shower and well away from any water spray. bathroom
 
Alternatively, the new Manrose range of 12 volt S.E.L.V. (Safety Extra Low Voltage) fans are specifically designed for the safe ventilation of toilets, bathrooms and shower rooms and can be fitted within the splash area with absolutely no risk of electric shock.

Q. Choosing Manrose fans

REMEMBER:

  • Axial Fans are designed to move air over short distances, i.e. window fixing or through mounting, and are not suitable for ducting over 2 metres in length. Available in 4", 5", 6" ,9" and 12" sizes. 
     
  • Centrifugal Fans are designed to move air over longer distances and will perform well against the pressure caused by long lengths of ducting and resistance by grilles. N.B. When ducting vertically it is recommended that a condensation trap is used. 
     
  • Humidistat Controls Manrose have a complete range of integral Humidistat Controls on all their fans; they are also available with a pullcord override switch. A remote mounted model is also available (1360). All are designed to switch on the fan as the humidity rises in the bathroom and off as it drops. It will continue to monitor the humidity 24 hours per day, thus preventing mould growth on walls and ceilings and drastically reduces condensation problems.

Types of model  

  • Standard. For remote switching through wall light or separate switch.
  • Timer model with built-in adjustable time delay operated by the light switch.
  • Pullcord model with built-in pullcord switch.
  • Humidity controlled models with built-in adjustable sensor which operates the fan automatically.
  • P.I.R. model sensitive to movement. Switches on when room is entered and off when room is vacated.

Q. Minimum air changes required per hour

To calculate the correct fan required for a particular room you need to know the room volume in cubic metres, i.e. length x breadth x height, and then multiply by the number of air changes required. 

Bathroom & Shower Rooms 3 Conference Rooms 8 Living & Other Domestic Rooms 3 Sports Facilities 6
Bedrooms 2 Garages 6 Meeting Rooms 4 Store Room 3
Cafés 10 Hairdressing Salons 10 Offices 6 Toilets - Domestic 3
Canteens 8 Halls & Landings 3 Restaurants & Bars 6 Toilets - Public 10
Cellars 3 Hospital Rooms 4 School Rooms 2 Utility Rooms 15
Changing Rooms with Showers 15 Laundries & Launderettes 10 Shops 8 Workshops 6

  Example 1 Example 2
Room Bathroom Kitchen
Volume 2.0 x 2.0 x 2.0 = 8m³ 2.8 x 2.8 x 2.8sq  22m³
Number of Air Changes Required 3 10
Performance 8 x 3 = 24m³/h 22 x 10 = 220m³/h
Fan Required XF100T = 85m³/h WF150MP = 220m³/h

Stale air is also removed by installing the appropriate Manrose fan. In certain circumstances, such as in toilets, a timer is incorporated to provide an automatic turn-on period of 15 minutes as stipulated in The Building Regulations.

Q. Manrose fans around the home

Answer coming soon.

Q. Can I mount a Manrose Pullcord Extractor fan on the ceiling?

Because the pullcord on all Manrose pullcord extractor fans exits at the bottom, the fan is not suited for mounting on the ceiling. The best option in this instance would be the standard fan with a wall mounting plate switch.

Q. Choosing the right hand dryer

We have a few different types of hand dryer featured on our website and this page is to help you decide exactly which type is most suitable for your application.

In light-duty applications where there is little or no risk of vandalism to the hand dryer, for example office environments, a plastic-cased unit would be suitable. An automatic dryer with 1.85kW element is available (see Whirlwind).

For applications such as pubs, clubs, schools and shopping centres where vandalism may be a problem, a metal-cased hand dryer is a better choice. Some metal cased units are also available with hand and face flaps or nozzles, which enable the user to direct the airflow to where they require it. The flap style can only be turned up or down (see Cyclone) and the nozzle can be turned a full 360 degrees (see Tornado). Hand dryers without either option are also available (see Hurricane).

Output or kW rating is also a major factor in choosing hand dryers. The Cyclone is available in 1.8 or 2.2kW, the Hurricane is a 2.4kW unit and the Tornado is also a 2.4kW unit. For very high use applications, for example in motorway service stations, a heavy-duty unit would be the most suitable (see Tornado).When a more modern look is needed, chrome (see Cyclone range) hand dryers are very popular, especially in pubs, nightclubs and restaurants.

Commercial hair dryers for hotel rooms and sports centres are also available. A holster-style dryer is more suitable for hotel rooms (see HD190L) because it is quite powerful at 1300W, but not waterproofed for bathroom use. The wall mounted hair dryer (see HD114T) is splash proof and therefore suitable for bathrooms or any application where there is a possibility of the unit being splashed with water.

Q. Is there some type of fan that we can install in a small shower room? This room has no window and no outside wall.

For small bathrooms and toilets the normal fan size to use would be 4", 100mm. Because the room has no windows I would recommend using the XF100H model with built-in humidistat which will automatically operate to keep the level of humidity down and reduce any problems with condensation, mildew or mold to a minimum.

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